Scott Fischman at some final table raised from early position with 95 offsuit. Then "Devilfish" went for the resteal by reraising him. Fischman then decided to move all in. Devil Fish folded and showed 95offsuit, Scott Fischman flip over his 59 offsuit... they both had the same hand!
An amazing play!
Or did he just get lucky?
Is this move a legitimate move to make online?
Lets say you have a suited connector If you're wrong, you have to consider that maybe you're probably 35% to win on average, even though you could be 40% to win if you're against AK.
So if you start with 280,000 with blinds 5000/10000 pot with 1000 antes 10 handed, there's already 25000 in the pot. So you raise 3X the big blind to 30000, your opponent reraises to maybe 90000.
At this point there's 145000 in the pot. So now Maybe you move all in for 250,000. You're opponent has to call 241000 to win 395000. If he thinks he's 38.5% to win he should call. But will he consider those odds, or just the fact that he doesn't want to risk a significant portion of his stack when he might be able to go on and win anyways? Lets say you know your opponent well enough that you know he'll call 50% of the time. From your perspective, you win
145000 50 times out of 100
the other 50 times that you're called, you add 145,000 in the pot plus 241,000 that your opponent calls about 33% of the time so you win 386000 16.5 times
the times you're called and lose, you lose 250,000. You lose 67% or 33.5 out of 50
out of 100 times, you win 50*145000=7250000 total when they fold
16.5$386000=6369000 total when they call and you win
and you lose 33.5*250000=8375000 total when they call and they win.
7250000+639000=13619000-8375000=5244000
524400/100
=52,440 expected value per hand or 5 big blinds per hand!
A very profitable move if your opponent is going to fold half the time
lets say your opponent calls 66% of the time,
33*145000=4785000
22*386000=8492000
45*250000=11250000
wow 13277000-1125000=2,027,000
/100
=20270
2BB
amazingly if you get called 66% of the time, and you're a 33% dog, you still make a good move.
The ReResteal is now in!
Qualifications
You should have a Tight image, or at least appear to be the type of player that isn't going to put all their money in on a bluff.
You should have about 30 times the big blind with antes in if you plan to make a standard raise, and get reraised the standard amount.
You should have a hand that is going to win an average of about 35% or more
You should have an opponent who likes to reraise to pressure their opponents with a wider range of hands, but doesn't like to get all their money in preflop and is capable of folding.
Be in a stage in the tournement where you either don't feel your chances are very good, or in a field where it's winner take all, or a tournement that pays out very very top heavy, or if you just need to make a move because you have to go do something for an hour and need to have chips when you come back.
Now consider...
It's one of the riskiest plays you can make, since you're not only making a raise, you're coming over the top of a reraise, and moving all in, and you're risking a move at 30 times the big blind, where you easily have plenty of play left. Antes must be relatively high, your opponent must be a fairly aggressive restealer. You must have a tight image, you should come from under the gun with a raise with a suited connector to perform it.
Your opponent should be good enough to fold. Look at the situation. Your opponent might have TT, but if you move in on him, he could easily be up against AA KK QQ JJ AK because you represented a lot of strength. If that's the hand range, and he's good enough to consider it, he cannot call. But if he does, you are probably in trouble. If your opponent moves with AJ he could probably fold. AQ he's got to be very concerned that he's dominated and at worst he might think you have JJ or TT./
You certainly could try to call in that situation for the stop and go, but you might have too many chips for the stop and go, and if your opponent would fold TT there, he would certainly be willing to call an all in if you just called and it came low cards. If your opponent is loose after the flop, the stop and go isn't as effective.
If you had less than 280,000 remaining (28 times the big blind), your opponent would have pretty good odds to call on a move all in, so a fold or a stop and go would be the only play after a failed blind steal attempt if you had less. With maybe 200k, you would call for 60k more and the pot would then be 205k and you would have 140k to push. I would reccomend a fold at this point rather than a stop and go. If you have 220k(22X BB) remaining, the stop and go might work there as you would have 160k remaining to push. Or if a few players were gone and it was shorter handed, it might work.
So with maybe 26-32 times the big blind against the right opponent in the right situation the reresteal is worth trying out.
25-28 a preflop raise to the stop and go could work, but you could also consider making a smaller preflop raise.
You could raise 2.5 times the big blind, get raised to 7.5 times the big bllind, and move in for remaining 18x so starting with 20.5 or so you could still pull the move off. Such a move, might be a little better in terms of risk, and since once you go below 20 you can't do much seeing of flops it's a good time to make the move. If part 1 happens successfully (everyone folding), you win a blind and a half, plus any antes. If you're reraised, and you pull off the part 2 of the move, (your opponent folding to the reresteal), you will win the blinds and antes, plus the 7.5 times raise and you'll have about 30 times the big blind. If part 2 fails and you get called, but get lucky and part 3 you win the hand, you get 20.5 from your opponent plus the blinds, plus antes. So you'll end up with about 43x. Regardless, if you show your hand after the rerresteal, no one will want to go over the top of you unless they have a hand they can call an all in with, which will make it easier to steal pots, and easier to predict your opponents. And if you need to make a big move so you can play small pot poker, you might want to consider doing so. If you folded to the reraise, the only move remaining to really get you back would be a resteal or stop and go, but a rotation or two later after a successful move, and you'd be in the same spot anyways.
I have experimented with moving in on a reresteal, and resteals to see what I get called with. In many cases, I actually would still have the best hand, and my opponent would call anyways. I have done the raise and go with K9suited and someone called with K8 offsuit after missing the flop. It's crazy what can hapen, as you isolate yourself with very loose very bad players, that feel "pot committed" even though they aren't.
With the resteal, it is another big move, that you'll see some of the same crazy stuff if you do it against the right opponents.
As with any move, be sure you're doing this with strength as well. If you reresteal, the next time, raise, and then move all in when you have AA. You also want it to be much more likely that you have a dominant hand than nothing.
After getting away with the raise and go, I repeated the raise and go with AK, and they folded again... I then got aces, and I did it again, and it worked as I got caalled. It's funny when people know about certain moves or think you play a certain way, they're willing to call you with complete garbage.
The best part about showing a reresteal, is what can happen afterwards. People won't dare try to come over the top of you without a hand, unless they're crazier than everyone thinks you are after that play. And the next time you raise and they reraise, you can move in, and you are much more likely to get action when you have aces.
You have all these moves in your arsenal, and you might use 2 or 3 of them one time each in a game with nothing, but pulling a move like that off, might be exactly what you need to allow you to get that big win, when everyone else is trying to make the money.
The reresteal is not a play for the faint of heart. It is not a play that will be a low risk way to accumulate chips. It is a "do or die" method required for winner take all style tournements or situations when you need to go big or go home. If you really want to get into a position where you can win, and you like to live on the edge, the resteal can be a profitable move.
It also works if YOU are the chipleader, and other people think you are bullying the table, and you think someone is trying to take a stand against you, and THEY started the hand with 20-30 times the big blind, depending on how much you raised and how much they raised. It is much more favorable then, as it does not risk illimination. This move requires you to have a lot of confidence in your ability to determine how frequently someone will fold in this spot to an all in.
If you do not wish to be called a "donkey", or do not wish to look foolish, don't even think about this move.
Try to pull it off if you feeel you are constantly finding it difficult late in a tournement, and people are constantly bullying you the deeper it gets.
I was playing in a tournement, and after raising a lot, some guy waited until the blinds went up, didn't make a move, and then BAM he reraises me and takes down a huge pot and let me do all the work stealing for him. But then a few hands later, I raised with 44 and he reraised again. I wasn't going to let him do that so I moved in and BAM, I took back his resteal on me, and all the blinds I stole back, and THEN some. Then he reraised me again, this time I had AQ. I should have stop and goed but I decided to moving again, and this time he called with a low pocket pair, like 66 or something. It was pretty crazy play as we went after each other again and again and adapted and readapted to each others play. in the end, it came down to a coinflip, and I lost. After being short stacked, I was forced to wait for a hand, and I ran AK in QQ and lost that one too. Perhaps I got too greedy as I had plenty of chips, but then again, if that player was gone the whole table was mine to minraise and small ball to peices. On the other hand, had I folded or pulled off a successful stop and go instead, I still could have let him find a different way to get chips, and fold to a resteal attempt or two by him, and then waited for a hand, and got all the chips he got from me back eventually anyways. But as a table bully, there are going to be people who come back and hit you straight in the nose, like people are "told" to do when facing a bully. Sometimes, you have to respect the fact that they might have been waiting for the right opportunity, but if you know the player enough, and you let him take a few shots at you until you figure him out, you need to take charge again and go all out like a maniac if you want the ability to continue to bully the table. It might just take one move with nothing, and then you can switch your game back to tight, wait for a hand, and then hit him back for the KO punch once you have your rockets on your side and can go in for the kill.
Perhaps it's an incredibly bold play, but sometimes it can be the play that's going to make you the most money in the long run, provided the situation is right, the opponent is right, the chips is right, and the cards are right. The learned ability is knowing how to figure out what you need in order for that move to be profitable. The natural ability is figuring out if the opportunity meets the qualification, and if that move is your best chance at finishing in the big money.
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